|Bobe-On wrote on 12/05/11, 9:22 am|
|I only said what I did because I saw something in you.|
I miss your work.
Next time I promise I'll keep my mouth shut and play dead. :\
|echo wrote on 05/06/10, 11:24 pm|
|Enjoyed listening to this a lot. Great work.|
|Bobe-On wrote on 20/04/10, 3:21 am|
|My "frenzy" of valuable time, etc., is partly tongue-in-cheek and part an in-kind response to your and mf's "frenzied" ;) responses, and since, perhaps obviously, I take very little time to post, compared to, say, composing of one of your works... (although, who knows ;p) |
You'll also notice a ';p' in one of them and recall that I also suggested taking it or leaving it.
Mikael, ;) the sitting-on-thumb suspicion is just that-- a suspicion-- and more targeted at for-profit commercial work than anything.
Nevertheless, I'm weary/wary of the maximum-profit-for-minimum-effort empty money-leveraging thing (and how culture has suffered and is suffering for it) and how/how deeply this can affect our work/minds? Quite a lot many would say, and in ways we may be less than conscious of. Like we're in The Matrix.
"You take the red pill and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..."
(Or you can wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. ;)
|Polaski wrote on 20/04/10, 3:01 am|
|Rags wrote on 19/04/10, 3:34 pm|
|You wake up in cozy warmness, you vision is blurry, but soon you start counting the rays of sunlight coming through the window shades. You get up silently, try not to make any sudden movements, not to wake her. Now you remember, the night, the forest, that party and her whom you met there. You know you must go - at least for now - so you let yourself one last glimpse at her. As you walk through the morning forest, everything is bright and green and yellow, and you start wondering whether it was really true, and will there be any continuation of it. But suddenly you realise that it doesn't really matter, because the present is here, now and it is perfect, and nothing can take it away. |
|mf wrote on 16/04/10, 3:09 pm|
|Dear Mr Bobe|
First of, let me apologize for my aggressive tone earlier... I will try to keep this civilized :-)
In some way I do understand where you are coming from... and it's really admirable that you constantly keep true to your sincerity, telling artists what your really think about their music... commenting releases and so forth... please do continue doing that....
In this case, I think that the whole drama is based on...poor choice of words?
See I understand that music is all about personal taste... and I totally accept your personal thoughts (boring, minimal or unfinished) on Polaski's release (not saying that I agree with your thoughts)... and I'm pretty sure Polaski himself don't mind either... on the contrary... comments are fuel for musicians... and musicians know that they can't please everyone...
I do however think that you cross a line by saying that musicians "sit on their thumbs"... because that statement will never ever be true. I'm sure, when you think about it, you agree that every single musician always puts 100% of themselves in every release.... In other words... they really try doing their best... every single time... Occasionally though, musicians want to try something new.... a different style?... a different approach?.... and who are we to blame them for walking down entirely new paths?...
Come to think of it... The only musician I could think of who could be described as "sitting on his thumbs" is that "Mikael Fyrek" you mentioned...
Now there's one lazy bastard!
|Polaski wrote on 16/04/10, 4:11 am|
|I'm focusing more on your character now and I see you have developed a frenzy over yourself. You feel Kahvi needs to live up to your expectations, your standards, and quick frankly, your sense of what music should be. You have no idea what I did for these tracks and I don't care whether you know or not.|
I'm making a statement right now. I don't make music for you. I don't make it for anyone else but myself. I enjoy this style only because I like listening to it. It's not about you Bobe-On and it never will be.
Look at some of your statements:
"My valuable time",
"I think your talent may be worth enough to take the time out of my day to challenge," and
"I do happen to like maybe half of it (which is saying something)"
Judas priest man, just listen to the music....
|Bobe-On wrote on 15/04/10, 10:40 pm|
|Incidentally, is 'mf', Mikael Fyrek?|
|Bobe-On wrote on 15/04/10, 10:26 pm|
So are you suggesting that it's put up and shut up just because it's free then, and despite the comment fields? If so, anything ridiculous there? (I also don't recall ever stooping to the level of telling anyone to drop dead either.)
I don't claim to know how much effort Polaski puts in his releases, but I do have my suspicions for some artists in general and Polaski in particular in some cases and I think that's what I suggested.
I like to think I'm doing a favour and taking my valuable time to lend some input at no charge. By your apparent logic, since that's free, maybe you and Polaski should put up and shut up. ;p
While not radically fanatic about Polaski's work, I do happen to like maybe half of it (which is saying something) and I've also lent some different comments on his other release.
In answer to your Mr. Bobe-on question; if you look around, you may find many comments from myself all over the place here at Kahvi (as opposed to silence and whining) and one thing Kahvi and its artists can count on from me is mindful sincerity. At the end of the day, I suspect that that can serve to improve someone's craft-- someone at least mature enough to know the difference between that and, say, mindless adulation.
Thanks for your input. :)
|axenov wrote on 11/04/10, 4:56 pm|
|Good! &&&&&! &&&&&&&& &&&&&&. &&&&&&&!|
|mf wrote on 04/04/10, 10:30 am|
|Now this is just ridiculous. |
Polaski has put a real effort in this release... working really hard to release it entirely for free...for you... no strings attached.... and you go on and whine about this and that?... even going as far as saying that musicians sit on their thumbs... That really got me going...
Tell me mr Bobe-on.... Why should these talented musicians continue composing music when all they get is silence in return... or as in this case... people whining about things they apparently have no apprehension of?...
You are taking free music for granted mr Bobe.
This release is fantastic, and I'm really grateful Polaski decided to release it for free on Kahvi. I hope your comments didn't change Polaski's views on releasing music for free on the netlabel community.
|Bobe-On wrote on 19/02/10, 1:42 am|
|The recall is just a request. |
Far too many so-called artists-- perhaps especially commercial "artists"-- seem to sit on their thumbs when it comes to effort-- talent notwithstanding-- along the lines of what I suggested on Kahvi's home page commentary section regarding filler. It's what we know: Junk media, on radio, television, in elevators, cafes, etc.
I suspect you, along with others at Kahvi, are sitting a little on your thumbs and going less as far as I think you can, as far as I think your talent may be worth enough to take the time out of my day to challenge. So there it is.
Take it or leave it.
I'll be back to hear the results.
|Polaski wrote on 18/02/10, 7:14 pm|
What authority do you have to make a statement to recall an artists' work? Do you believe yourself to be an IDM guru whose opinion is well understood and followed by the netlabel community?
You can call it boring all you want, and, in fact, it may very well be the most boring release on Kahvi, but don't ever recall work done and finished.
|Polaski wrote on 18/02/10, 7:06 pm|
|First off: Drop dead. I'm not recalling any of this work, period. While I do encourage honest criticism of anyone's work, most importantly mine, these tracks are what they are: an expression. Music enjoyment is always a matter of perspective. I do not have a resume of any considerable length for me to possibly go "backwards". Each release is its own style, incomparable to the one before, and for those to come.|
|Bobe-On wrote on 18/02/10, 1:34 am|
|2 stars, which is still fair.|
I think Polaski has gone a touch backwards from Bendii, which is no big deal, as others' tastes might differ and as Polaski is probably evolving.
Personally I find 37 a little boring, minimal or unfinished, and believe it was released too soon.
That being said, I hereby request that Polaski recall, rework and rerelease it.
Last Goodbyes remains my favourite, and Polaski's current gold standard.